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Vizio P Series 2016 4K HDR Ultra HD TV Review (P50-C1, P55-C1, P65-C1, P75-C1)

by on April 15, 2016
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Overview

Vizio has really come into its own since first kickstarting their drive for reputation via superior but affordable 4K UHD TVs with great specs, back in late 2014 with their first P-Series models and their revolutionary pricing for the time. Since then, they’ve released several new series of 4K TVs and even entered the ultra-premium ultra HD television landscape with their late 2015 Reference Series 4K HDR TVs, one being a 65 inch model that sold for roughly $6000 and the other a 120 inch monster that sold for nearly the price of an actual house.

Now, with 2016 being here, the P-Series has come back in its newest form and includes many of the technologies found in the fantastic Reference Series TVs but with far more reasonable price tags. What this means is that the 2016 Vizio P-Series TVs are more than just good TVs for a good price. No, unlike their 2014 cousins and the 2015 M-Series 4K TV line, the 2016 P-Series is a downright great TV at a great price. With HDR, great color, fantastic contrast and an improved 4K smart TV interface, Vizio has taken the P-Series to a new level and while they’ve also become more expensive in the process, they’re still definitely priced in a way that balances wonderfully with their mostly excellent quality.

The Good

First and foremost among the things we like about the 2016 P-Series TVs is there reinvented and highly innovative approach to smart TV functionality. Instead of your usual in-TV smart OS, the P-Series now comes with an included Full HD tablet remote accessory, which comes with the meat of the TVs’ smart control and apps access features. This is a fairly radical shift away from how smart TV has worked up to now and we even speculate that it might take hold across the entire 4K TV market at some point soon.

In basic terms, there is no longer any smart display on the TV itself. Instead, the TV screen proper only shows whatever content is being “cast” to it through the Vizio SmartCast app, which comes preinstalled on the included tablet remote but which can also be downloaded to almost any other tablet, smartphone or even PC. Since we’re also talking about 4K content here, it’s obviously not being transmitted to the TV from any of these external devices but being coordinated to appear on the display from within the TV’s own Ethernet connection or a connected external media player. In any case, the functionality of this entirely new take on smart TV is certainly useful and effective in many ways, though it also comes with some flaws which we will cover in the “Bad” section below.

Next up, we love the visual qualities of the Vizio 2016 HDR P-Series. This is a TV line which simply does not lack for quality display specs almost entirely across the board and the larger models in the 55 inch and above range are particularly wonderful to behold in how they display 10-bit color, extraordinarily good contrast, essentially perfect black uniformity and some truly superb local diming, with numerous specific “Active LED zones” which vary based on specific P-Series model size but which are found in all models thanks to the across-the-board full-array LED backlighting. In basic terms, these HDR TVs really do live up to their HDR chops, even if they don’t include the LCD Alliance’s Ultra HD Premium certification. In fact, we’d even argue that they beat the Sony X850D for all relevant HDR specs even though this other TV is certified by the UHD Alliance!

Additionally, there are also the motion control specs of the P-Series. In 2015, Sony was kind of these for LCD 4K TVs and still remains a superb performer but in this area, Vizio is giving all LCD competitors a serious run for their money with some nearly perfect 24p playback, judder control, motion interpolation and excellent motion blur control.

Finally for the great design-related qualities, we love the simple fact that Vizio is serious about making full-array LED backlighting as widely accessible as possible for decent prices. Samsung, Sony, LG and other brands all still insist on essentially insulting consumers’ pockets by charging thousands for premium 4K TVs that rarely include full-array in any but the very flagship models while Vizio has included the technology pretty much across the board in the 2016 P-Series, just as it included the same technology in all 55 inch+ models for the 2014 P-Series and 2015 M-Series 4K TVs. . This isn’t to say that Sony or Samsung’s 4K TVs aren’t also great performers despite edge-lit displays but they could be even better performers if they put a bit more interest into delivering the same robustness as Vizio does in this area.

Now, finally, after listing all the superb technologies and features of the 2016 P-Series, we get down to what we think really tops them off nicely. This is of course their price range. These latest mass market Vizio TVs aren’t as cheap as they were in 2014 but they’re wonderfully priced nonetheless. The smallest 50 inch range goes for just $999 and even the largest 75 inch model sells for what is still a very reasonable $3,799 price tag. And remember, these are TVs with full HDR, 10-bit color and the rarified technology of full-array LED backlighting with at least 126 dimming zones, even in the smallest model.

• P50-C1 50 inches $999 - BestBuy
• P55-C1 55 inches $1,299 - BestBuy
• P65-C1 65 inches $1,999 - BestBuy
• P75-C1 75 inches $3,799 - BestBuy

They are currently only available at BestBuy and not for Sale on Amazon. We will update this review as soon as they are available.

The bad

For all their excellent qualities, the 2016 P-Series also isn’t without its minor to moderate flaws. None of these are going to be deal breakers for most people, especially considering the prices these TVs sell for but they are definitely worth pondering.

For starters, the new SmartCast tablet/app-based smart platform of the P-Series can get buggy at times. This mainly happens in the form of a dropped connection between app casting device and TV here and there or some lag in responsiveness. Thus, sometimes doing things like modifying settings, moving through content choices or even changing volume can suddenly fail or respond with some serious lag time. Obviously, we should expect something like this for a first-run implementation of this technology and Vizio will almost certainly iron out these bugs as 2016 progresses, and certainly for newer versions of both the app and Vizio’s TVs in general, but at least for now, the glitches in SmartCast can sometimes get frustrating.

Next, there are the display technology characteristics of the P-Series which don’t work quite as nicely as the ones we loved in the section above. First among these is the upscaling engine in the P-Series. It works superbly for Full HD content and even does a sort of dynamic range and color upscaling to non-HDR 4K content that we also greatly appreciate but when it comes to 480p content and 720p video sources, the P-Series upscaling system isn’t quite as good as we’ve seen in other name brand 2015 and 2016 4K TVs. For 480p content in particular, the engine can create quite a bit of fuzziness as it tries to stretch the low native video resolution to fit the TVs’ 8.29 million pixel screens.

On top of this upscaling problem, the P-Series does not come with any 3D technology or support for 3D video. As far as we’re concerned, this is a minor detail since 3D is still mostly overrated and scarce with 3D formatted content being scarce on the ground anyhow but for those of you who feel the need for a 3D 4K TV option, the P-Series, like the Samsung 2016 SUHD TVs, is not your best bet since both completely lack this technology.

Finally for display weaknesses, the viewing angles of the P-Series 2016 HDR 4K TVs are less than great. Like their competitors the 2016 SUHD TVs from Samsung, the 2016 P-series (except the 55 inch model, which uses IPS display) uses VA panel technology instead of IPS panel and as a result, viewing angles of more than 60 degrees from dead center (0 degrees) to either side result in a serious level of contrast and color fade. The one exception to this, the 55 inch P55-C1 offers IPS display and thus delivers reduced contrast but considerably better viewing angles.

We should also note that the P-Series offer slightly weaker color space coverage in the DCI-P3 gamut. They’re 10-bit TVs but their color performance does lag slightly behind what we noted in the Samsung SUHD models and Sony HDR TVs for 2016.

Final Thoughts

In the final cut, the 2016 Vizio P-Series is one of the best overall TV deals in 2016. No, these aren’t comparable to the truly cutting edge OLED 4K TV models for this year and they lag behind some of the other major name brand 4K TVs in a few distinct ways but quite frankly, the match is very close between the 2016 Vizio P-Series and almost any Samsung or Sony 4K TV for this year. Vizio has really moved things up a couple of notches and the result should give the rest of the 4K HDR LCD TV market a serious dose of competitive concern.

Specs

• Screen size: 50 diagonal inches, 54.5 diagonal inches 64.5 diagonal inches, 75, diagonal inches
• Smart TV: Vizio SmartCast Mobile smart TV app
• HEVC (H.265) Included: Yes
• VP9 Included. Yes, and VP8
• HDR: Yes Dolby Vision and HDR10
• HD to UHD upscaling: Yes
• HDCP 2.2 Compliance: Yes
• Refresh Rate: 120Hz native refresh rate (Clear Action 480) in 50 inch model
• 240Hz refresh with Clear Action 960 in 55, 65 and 75 inch models
• Screen Lighting: Full-array LED backlighting with multi-zone local dimming
• Resolution: 3,840 x 2,160 pixels UHD
• Wireless Connectivity: Yes, includes both built-in WiFi and Ethernet port
• Remotes: Android tablet remote with SmartCast, also includes small conventional button remote
• Connectivity: 5 HDMI 2.0 ports (upgrading to HDMI 2.0a), 2 USB ports, 1 Ethernet port, 1 Digital Optical audio out, 1 component in, 1 RCA Audio out
• Sound: 2 20 watt speakers with DTS Studio Sound
• Contrast Ratio: 5694 : 1
• Black Level maximum: 0.018 cd/m2
• 3D Technology: None
• TV weight (with stand for all models)
• 50 inch: 32.85 lbs
• 55 inch: 41.01 lbs
• 65 inch: 62.39 lbs
• 75 inch: 103.62 lbs
• Processor: Quad Core

Highlights

Vizio’s 2016 P-Series TVs offer their most powerful highlights in the form of their smart TV functionality and select display specs that really place them in a powerful class of their own at their price and serve to make these latest Vizio televisions into some of the best 4K LCD TVs of any type in 2016.

Highlight number one and quite possibly the single most innovative new feature of the P-Series, or of any 2016 4K TV is the complete remake of smart TV found in the SmartCast app. As we already described above, SmartCast takes the smart ecosystem which was formerly an integral part of your TV and makes into a portable piece of interface technology which you can transfer among as many different mobile devices as you like. For one thing, this means no need to worry about a lost remote again and for another thing, multiple remotes can literally be created on the fly from existing compatible smart devices like phones and tablets in your home. The concept behind SmartCast is quite simply brilliant and we’d love to see it catch on further after a bit more refinement and debugging.

Secondly, there is the most powerful display highlight of the Vizio P-Series, for 2016 applying as much as it did in 2014. This of course is the simple fact that all of these new TVs offer full-array LED backlighting and multizone local dimming technology. When Vizio first introduced this to their 55 inch and larger 2014 P-Series it deeply impressed us to see it available in such affordably priced 4K TVs and now in 2016, the technology is back in the next generation, now brighter and more precise than ever in delivering rich contrast and deep local dimming. The only sad thing is to see the other major name brands still shirking on doing the same with their own 2016 premium 4K TV lines.

Next up, we have the most fundamental highlight of all in the P-Series. This is the sheer quality of their HDR technology. Unlike the other major competitors Sony and Samsung, Vizio has temporarily eschewed UHD Alliance “Ultra HD Premium certification” in favor of going for Dolby Lab’s Dolby Vision HDR standards which are also being used by 4K streaming content services like Netflix and Vudu. Furthermore, in terms of sheer quality, the HDR of the P-Series gives a big boost to the reputation of the Dolby Vision idea. These TVs offer outstanding HDR specs, with superb peak brightness levels and deep rich blacks combining to create a native contrast ratio which blows both Samsung’s 2016 SUHD HDR TVs and Sony’s 2016 HDR TVs right out of the water. Considering that the P-Series models are cheaper than either of the above, this is an impressive achievement indeed. We should also note that HDR10 (UHD Alliance favored HDR) compatibility available in these TVs, due to a firmware update which also activated HDMI 2.0a in the four ports with the 2.0 version.

Visual Specs

As we’ve already alluded to plenty of times in the other segments above, the visual specs of the Vizio P-Series 2016 HDR 4K TVs are simply stunning almost entirely across the board. Now, let’s take a quick look at some of the numbers behind these claims to give you an idea of just why we’re so impressed.

First of all, there is the combination of peak brightness, black levels, contrast, local dimming and screen uniformity to consider. In all of these, the P-Series are almost uniformly superb performers. Peak brightness sits at well above 550 cd /m2 in all percentage window testing scenarios and in doing so happens to outdo some other competitor models like the Sony X850D TV we’ve also covered, which only managed luminance in the 360 cd/m2 range despite also being an HDR TV.

Now while edge-lit Sony premium TVs like the X930D manage even higher peak brightness rates of 900+ cd/m2. The Vizio P-Series still delivers superior overall contrast because of its astonishingly good black levels. These models can reduce light bleed for black levels down to as little as 0.019 cd/m2, contrasted against white levels of about 103 cd/m2, which is considerably darker than the average we’ve seen for both Samsung’s lower-end SUHD KS8000 model or even Sony’s flagship X930/40D models. As a result, despite the good but not exceptional peak brightness of the P-Series, overall contrast achieved in these TVs is a stunningly high average of 5600:1. This is deep and rich indeed. 126 local dimming zones in the 50 and 55 inch TVs and 128 specific dimming zones in the 65 and 75 inch models only compound the quality of the contrast through some remarkably precise local dimming, for an LCD 4K TV series. We should also note that the P-Series TVs deliver nearly perfect black uniformity. This is indeed an impressive improvement from what we saw in the 2014 models.

We should also mention that the above contrast specs don't apply equally to the 55 inch P55-C1 P-Series model. For reasons of what we assume is variation, Vizio gave this TV an IPS display and thus while color vibrancy is better and viewing angles quite a bit wider, the native contrast on this TV is reduced by a fair bit, sitting at about 1500:1.

Next, there is the color performance in the P-Series. While in this area the TVs don’t perform quite as well as their Samsung and Sony competitors, they still deliver some finely graded 10-bit color as per their HDR standards specs from Dolby Vision and also manage to cover roughly 88% of the DCI-P3 color space, putting them close to the UHD Alliance Ultra HD Premium standard in quality. On the other hand, quantum dot and phosphor color enhancements filters for the backlights and LEDs are not present in the P-Series as they are in Samsung’s SUHD TVs and Sony’s Bravia models (Triluminos Display)

Finally, the judder control, motion control and motion interpolation technologies in the P-Series all work superbly. The first two of these work in what we’d consider to be an essentially perfect way and motion blur is regulated superbly if not perfectly. Combining these qualities with the extensively broad connectivity options of the P-Series (five different HDMI 2.0 ports) also makes these models into superb gaming TVs, either in 4K resolution or upscaled Full HD.

Connectivity

Connectivity-wise, the P-Series delivers the essentials you need for an ideal 4K content viewing and general streaming or broadcast media experience but with a couple of not so major but notable flaws.

For starters, the entire line of P-series models offers up all the usual connectivity ports, with an above average quantity of five HDMI slots, slightly less than average quantity of just 2 USB 2.0 ports and the usual component/composite and digital audio in ports. Of the five HDMI ports, four are 2.0 versions and the fifth is of the older [email protected] 1.4 type. There is of course also Ethernet connectivity and built-in WiFi for access to streaming web content and SmartCast functionality. Furthermore, because these are Dolby Vision HDR TVs, you can also access the Vudu 4K streaming media app on them, which uses the same HDR spec and is specifically available for newer Vizio 4K models.

Furthermore, the P-Series now also offers VP9 4k content compression support. This means access to an even wider range of 4K UHD streaming content, particularly from YouTube's content app.

Pricing

The pricing structure of the P-Series is excellent for the specs and overall quality these TVs deliver. The four different models are priced as follows:

• P50-C1 50 inches $999 - BestBuy
• P55-C1 55 inches $1,299 - BestBuy
• P65-C1 65 inches $1,999 - BestBuy
• P75-C1 75 inches $3,799 - BestBuy

They are currently only available at BestBuy and not for Sale on Amazon. We will update this review as soon as they are available.

Not so Great

As we’d mentioned above, the not so great aspects of the P-Series are few and minor for the most part. However, for all their quality, these TVs with the exception of the 55 inch IPS model offer less than ideal viewing angles, lack 3D technology and sometimes suffer from glitches in rapid communication between their mobile-based SmartCast platform and the TVs themselves.

Positives

• Superb high dynamic range
• HDR10 and Dolby Vision compatible
• Excellent contrast
• Vizio SmartCast mobile smart TV
• Included tablet
• Incredible black levels
• Great color performance
• Wonderful motion control specs

Negatives

• No 3D
• Weak viewing angles
• Peak brightness could be still higher
• SmartCast glitches up sometimes

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The bottom line you need to keep in mind for the Vizio P-Series is that quite simply, these are some of the best 4K LED/LCD HDR TVs we’ve seen for 2016. When you balance out their prices and the quality that all of the models uniformly share, we’d argue that they definitely beat what Sony and LG offer with most of their new 2016 LCD HDR TVs and they also give Samsung a serious run for its money.

 
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  • Mike G
    April 15, 2016 at 2:51 pm

    Great article, but I have to point out that there’s two parts in here you might want to correct. One, the 55 inch TV is an IPS screen and has wonderful viewing angles (I own the 55 inch model, but can’t speak about the other sizes). Also, this TV supports both Dolby Vizion and HDR10. HDR10 isn’t active yet, but will be very soon by an update. Everything else seems to be on par.

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      April 16, 2016 at 12:24 pm

      Hi there Mike, both have already been added into the review as well as mention of the IPS display in the 55 inch model. Thanks for pointing those out though. Reader comments like yours are valuable for catching omissions and correction opportunities that we can miss here and there.

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    • Jeremy A
      August 3, 2016 at 6:10 pm

      Hi Mike,
      I am seriously considering the 2016 P series. I was just going to swing for the 50in model but I wanted the 240 refresh rate as opposed to the 120. I could only afford the 55in model to get 240hz but the IPS panel in this model worries me that the black are substantially inferior to the other size displays with a VA panel.
      I was wondering, in your opinion, are the levels of black that this panel can handle that bad?? Is there anything else about this panel that you regret getting the 55in model or are you happy with your purchase?

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  • Terry
    April 15, 2016 at 3:12 pm

    Please note one of the USB ports on each tv is 3.0 with 0.9A. Can be seen in pic’s on bestbuy and the user manual page 70.

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      April 15, 2016 at 5:24 pm

      Excellent Terry and thank you. we’ll add in this detail. It’s good to see Vizio thinking of little things like this as well. Many other 2016 4K TV makers still insist on going with the considerably weaker USB 2.0.

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  • Brett C.
    April 15, 2016 at 3:45 pm

    Two things about two negatives you had with the TVs. One, while almost all sizes of the P-series have a VA panel, the 55″ is actually IPS: http://www.vizio.com/tvs/pseries/p55c1.html . Two, while HDMI 2.0a is not available out of the box, it is coming in a future firmware update (mentioned in the tech specs for the TVs; HDR10 support is also coming in a future firmware update). I would be curious to know how the 55″ did in terms of viewing angle compared to the other model sizes.

    Great review otherwise!

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      April 15, 2016 at 5:23 pm

      Thanks for the information Brett and glad you mentioned it. I was going to mention the IPS display but it must have been slipped on just before publication. This is being corrected along with the additional info you’ve provided.

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      • Naveen KrishnaMurthy
        April 16, 2016 at 1:35 am

        May we know the contrast ratio of the 55″ IPS model ?

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        • Stephen
          Stephen
          April 16, 2016 at 10:34 am

          Hello Naveen. The contrast in the 55 inch IPS model is actually not as good as that of the other VA displays. We have found it to be a bit over 1500:1, quite a difference from the over 5000:1 of the other VA panels in this case. However, the viewing angle quality in the 55 inch model is much better and colors look superior.

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          • Daniel J. Brown
            April 29, 2016 at 2:18 pm

            Stephen, did you guys actually measure the IPS at 1500:1 or is that a best estimate? From my research I have never seen above 1200:1 with IPS panels and most are even worse, around 700:1… It doesn’t sound like too much of a difference, but if IPS is now pushing 1500:1, that would be a step in the right direction.


          • Stephen
            Stephen
            April 29, 2016 at 6:46 pm

            Hello Daniel, we did measurements with a Vizio P-Series 65 inch model, which comes with a Vertical Alignment (VA) display panel but we took the figures for the 55 inch model with IPS display from a reliable source and believe their accuracy to within reasonable precision. The IPS in the P-Series seems to be quite superior to that of what would be a conventional contrast ratio in an older or non-HDR IPS display.


      • Zachary Graen
        April 16, 2016 at 8:26 pm

        The IPS panels will have a significantly lower contrast ratio than the VA panels. The 55″ model should have black levels markedly inferior to the models with the VA panel. Should be an easily detectable difference between the 2 panel types. the IPS panel however should have a much wider viewing angle and the colors should stay truer off axis.

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        • Stephen
          Stephen
          April 17, 2016 at 1:11 am

          Hello there Zachary. All of these details are indeed true and have all been noted in the review under the “Visual Specs” section and in one or two other places. Thanks for your input though. Cheers.

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      • Brett C.
        April 20, 2016 at 1:27 pm

        Thanks for the updates to the review, Stephen! Due to the new info on the 55″ model it looks like that will be the next TV I purchase once it’s available in Canada.

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  • Peter
    April 15, 2016 at 8:18 pm

    Yes have an error in the specs, according to Vizio the 2016 P series does support VP9.
    These are the video formats supported:
    -H.264 High Profile Level 4.1 (the processor can decode up to 720/60 or 1080/30)
    -H.265 (HEVC)
    -VP8
    -VP9 (8 Bit)
    -DolbyVision

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  • James Kurian
    April 15, 2016 at 10:45 pm

    The review says that the P-Series has a minimum brightness of .019 nits and a contrast ration of 5600:1. That calculates the max brightness to be .019*5600 = 106.4 nits, which is not very high at all. Is this accurate?
    According to the X940D review, the max brightness is about 1400 nits, and the minimum is .034 nits. Therefore a contrast ratio of 1400/.034 = 41176:1!! Is this the case? Is the X940D that much superior to the P-Series? I know the price is more than double, but the law of diminishing returns seems to be reversed in this case!

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      April 16, 2016 at 11:03 am

      Hello James, the candela levels in the P-Series that led to the contrast ratio forgot to include mention of white level brightness, it’s been corrected. Thanks. Looking into the details of the X940D review for any possible corrections, though no, the contrast ratio isn’t that extraordinarily high.

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      • James Kurian
        June 5, 2016 at 10:24 pm

        I didn’t mean to imply that you made any errors. I was just wondering how you calculated the ratios.

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    • John
      October 21, 2016 at 2:07 pm

      I think you are confusing the “native” contrast ratio and “dynamic” contrast ratio. Sure the TV can display very bright and very dark (dynamic) but can it show bright and dark simultaneously (native)? The Vizio may lag slightly in dynamic contrast ratio since it cannot get as bright but its full array local dimming back light gives it very good native contrast ratio as it can simultaneously display bright and dark by dimming the LED back light in certain areas. The 4K review of the Sony seems to confirm this citing a contrast ratio of 3640:1 for the Sony vs 5600:1 for the Vizio.

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  • Redryder
    April 16, 2016 at 12:50 pm

    2016 P series VIZIO “TV” does not include an ATSC Tuner to receive local Over-the Air stations. Should have an upgradable to ATSC 3.0 tuner. Is only a display.

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  • Dennis
    April 19, 2016 at 4:33 pm

    So how does the 60 htz 50 inch screen compare to other tvs? Is there major judder? I was considering the 50 inch instead of the Sony 55x850C, which is actually cheaper now at 899, although with only minimal HDR.

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      April 20, 2016 at 2:25 pm

      Our review focused more on the 65 inch+ models Dennis but it’s to our understanding that the 50 inch screen also delivers far superior performance and motion control features than what we saw in 2015 Vizio TVs. The 120Hz models delivered these particular specs almost perfectly and the 50 inch model should perform fairly well. On the other hand, the X850C from Sony is one great 4K TV in general and as far as its judder control and motion specs go. However, the 50 inch Vizio 2016 P-Series delivers much better HDR nad color performance.

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  • Mark
    April 19, 2016 at 9:23 pm

    When will this be available in Canada?

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      April 20, 2016 at 2:16 pm

      Hello Mark. We are actually looking into the matter of a Canadian release and will definitely post the details here or in a separate news article. We’d like to see the new P-Series expand to wider markets. We’ve reviewed these TVs and they are excellent almost across the board.

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  • hamed
    April 21, 2016 at 2:25 pm

    May we know the contrast ratio of the 50″ model ?

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      April 21, 2016 at 11:02 pm

      Hello Hamed, Given that all of the 2016 P-Series TVs offer the same full-array LED backlighting, the 50 inch model will should have mostly the same contrast ratio as that noted in our review. Only the 55 inch model, which offers an IPS display, will have a considerably lower level of contrast and weaker black levels.

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  • James
    April 22, 2016 at 2:31 pm

    Which one you guys recommend me for movies and gaming (ps4) between the sony x810c, x850c (55 inch) and vizio p50-c1 (50 inch model) have been hard for me to choose one. help me!

    The x810c, Backlight: Direct, 120hz , Flicker free (no PWM)……………. $898 USD

    The x850c, Backlight: Edge 120hz, HDR, almost same motion blur than the x810c……….. $1024 USD

    The vizio p50-c1 2016, Backlight: Full-Array, HDR, Dolby Vision, 60hz, PWM (people say it has a lot of flickering)………… $999 USD

    Thanks!

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      April 23, 2016 at 11:49 am

      Hello there James, without a doubt I’d recommend you go for the Vizio model. Aside from the slower native refresh rate, this 4K TV offers the far superior contrast and brightness specs as well as delivering what we’d consider to be superior color as well. (though the Sony X850C also delivers excellent 10-bit color). In terms of HDR technology, the Vizio model offers the higher caliber of high dynamic range and Vizio’s SmartCast app-based smart platform is a major improvement over the Internet Apps Plus smart TV platform from last year’s 4K TVs. Vizio will also soon be offering support for HDR10 (UHD Alliance-based) HDR standards and their 2016 P-Series TVs support both HEVC and VP9 4K content compression codecs. The 2016 Vizio P-Series TVs are also superb performers in terms of motion control technologies, so the 60Hz refresh rate is unlikley to be a serious detriment. If you’re not keen on the Vizio, then as second choice I’d recommend the X850C from Sony.

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  • hamed
    April 24, 2016 at 7:21 am

    what about calibration is it Different between the sizes in Vizio P Series 2016 ?

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  • Aaron sowers
    April 25, 2016 at 12:45 am

    I bought the D-series 65″ for a $1,000 and I’m thinking about taking it back and upgrading for a Samsung 6700 or M-series 65″ for just $400 more for what I paid for my D-series but the D-series got good reviews on it, I’m just not sure what to do but I want the best TV for my $ and I’m willing to spend a lil more to get a better TV, what should I get?

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      April 25, 2016 at 1:52 pm

      Hi Aron, while we haven’t yet reviewed them, I’d suggest going for one of Vizio’s 2016 M-Series 4K TVs or at least taking a look at them as soon as they’re available (which should be now or very soon). These aside, i’d recommend the 2016 P-Series models from this same review, especially the 50 or 65 inch models if you want optimum contrast. They’re a bit pricier but they offer truly superb quality almost across the board.

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  • Frank
    April 26, 2016 at 6:52 am

    Any news on the release date in canada ?

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  • Orlandoech
    April 27, 2016 at 12:28 pm

    I am debating on one of the following TVs

    1. Vizio P-Seriess P55-C1
    or
    2. Samsung KS8000 55″
    or
    3. Sony XBR55850D

    Which would you choose and why? I likely will not be playing XBOX on it, but will watch Comcast Cable, lots of sports, mainly football and lots of 720p and 1080p movies.

    Sound is not important as I have a Sony 780 soundbar and 3D is NOT important. Picture quality and clarity are most important tome.

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    • David
      April 29, 2016 at 7:59 am

      the best of the three you are looking at i would have to say is the Sony 55X850D. with the 4K X-Reality-Pro processor and the 4K X-1 Processor allows for the best upscaling from any 720p or 1080p to 4K. as far the color goes the Triluminos Display allows the best and largest color palette. this will get you a true color closer to what it really looks like in reality. The Samsong is way to price for the same offers as the Sony. and the vizio is cheaply made and shows with poor picture color and quality.. Between the three I’d definitely go for the Sony 55X850D

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      April 29, 2016 at 6:27 pm

      Hello Orlando, I’ve repasted the same reply I left to your comment in the KS8000 review:

      Between the three you mention, i’d definitely go for the KS8000 if price isn’t your biggest concern. On the other hand, I’d recommend the 55 inch P-Series if you’d like to save a bit of money and still receive an excellent picture quality experience. The 2016 SUHD TVs are great across the board and even the lower priced KS8000 and KS8500 (Which have nearly the same specs with the only real distinction being a lack of curvature in the KS8000) are some of the best 4K LCD TVs we’ve seen in 2016. Overall they’re somewhat superior to the P-Series though the Vizio model is also ecellennt with some fine 10-bit color and the second best HDR specs we’ve seen in 2016 so far.

      The Sony model isn’t bad either but it’s simply not as good a 4K TV overall as either the KS8000 or P-Series. In summary. for the best among those you list, go for the KS8000 but if you want to save a bit of money, go for the P-Series for a nearly as good picture quality.

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      • Kelly
        November 10, 2016 at 2:26 pm

        Hi Stephen! I’m looking at basically the exact same three models, but it is now November. I went to a hi-end local electronics that usually has well-informed staff. The salesperson I talked to pushed Sony. They so carry Samsung, but only the high-ticket OLED tvs. They thumbed their nose at Vizio, which they won’t even sell. I am taking all this with a grain of salt. So I am wondering, does your above recommendation still stand? Should I invest in the higher priced KS8000 or KS8500 over the Vizio P-Series or Sony? Has anything changed in the past 6 months that has altered your opinion in any way? Best Regard!

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        • Stephen
          Stephen
          November 15, 2016 at 10:59 am

          Hey there Kelly. Quite frankly I can’t speak too completely of the long term lasting power of many of these TVs but the Vizio models, and especially the P-Series and M-Series don’t at all deserve to be derided by any sales rep. They are indeed good solid 4K TVs in all our experience and the P-Series for 2016 is particularly superb. That said, the KS8500/KS8000 and Sony’s higher end models for 2016 are all superior to the Vizio TVs due to their higher levels of peak brightness. The P-Series does however perform just about as well as them on color, motion handling and black levels as well in our view.

          Overall, if you don’t mind the extra price, I’d still recommend you go for the Samsung KS-Series TVs but if you want to save a bit of money and still want quality, the Vizio P-Series model is exceptionally good.

          I should also note that because the P-Series comes with full-array LED backlighting, it’s a way better TV in how it handles local dimming. None of the Samsung or Sony TVs with edge-lit displays (for Samsung the KS9500 on downard and for Sony the X930D on downward in price) can compete with the P-Series on this.

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  • I work in high end electronics
    April 28, 2016 at 8:18 pm

    The Vizio P-Series is just what vizier is around for, for people to any why you didn’t spend to extra money on a 4k tv that actually has a good picture. the picture quality is terrible, the color is terrible, and when you connect the tablet to it the streaming between the two are awful. it is slow and low to medium quality. the biggest problem is that all of the p-series vizio’s do not have a built in tuner, which means if u buy a vizio you have to have some sort of streaming provider or cable box. of the 3 that i have set up all 3 of them have either froze or could not be completely set up, which has to be done with the tablet on an excellent internet speed. if your buying a vizier its to save money. and if you trying to get a 4k thats not where you want to save. spend the little bit extra and buy a Sony, LG, maybe even a Samsung. Sony and LG mid range and higher are the best 4k tv’s out there and are well worth the little bit extra over the vizio.

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    • Daniel J. Brown
      April 29, 2016 at 2:53 pm

      The tablet doesn’t do the streaming itself, it just acts as the remote control… if you don’t know how that even works, sorry just can’t take your opinion seriously… If the streaming quality is bad, then it’s the internet or local network connection itself… Also, ya, I’m sure it may need firmware updates but the latest vizio models have excellent picture quality that is scientifically proven to be right up there with those other brands. “LG, maybe even a Samsung”? Wut? Unless you get their expensive OLED, LG picture quality is terrible, even in their higher end LED’s and Samsung are definitely nice, but you can’t get a better TV for the money than with Vizio right now, period… Quit giving out poor advice and just keep being the dummy in the blue shirt the rest of us ignore at Best Buy. 😉

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      • MDCman
        May 1, 2016 at 9:32 am

        well buddy i do work in Magnolia Design Center and i would not sell a vizier to save my job. i have set up multiple tv’s LG, Samsung, Vizio, Sony’s, and many others, and the vizio is no where near the quality of the samsung, lg, or sony, and if u think so its because ur cheap and use to cheap tv’s and never have had a true quality tv. it people like u that waste my time and all sales peoples time asking stupid questions just to make terrible decisions on ur own. have u ever used the free tablet that comes with the p-series tv’s I’m guessing not. i have. have u ever heard of processing speed well its terrible very slow. here’s a best buy recommendation for you vizio is a cheap tv and made cheap with left over parts because they are cheap. it has poor picture quality and has terrible color. your more that welcome to own one but the people that actually know what they are talking about will never buy a vizio. so if u want to ignore the blue shirt advise go for it, but stop wasting my time and many other people.

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        • niall
          May 7, 2016 at 6:39 pm

          Oh MDCman you poor sad creature. I see the average income for a magnolia employee is about $43k. Not enough to afford the snotty attitude you have.

          The others were actually trying to help people. If you’re worried that they’re taking your place and hurting your income (a reasonable fear) then you should try helping people more rather than being so nasty.

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        • KLEW
          October 26, 2016 at 5:50 pm

          Well MDCman, I am a sound and video engineer with 30 years experience and I own a vizio p75-c1. First, the tablet is a breeze and fun to use once you figure it out. Second, the build quality is stylish and firm. Third, the contrast is excellent and black levels outstanding. I find very little to none when it comes to blooming. Color bleeding and flashlighting is absent as well . Those issues I have personally found on the Sony xbr C and D. I also found these problems with Samsung (excluding their flagship models) Vizio has finally produced a flagship television for nearly half the cost of other competitors….Now back to you, your attitude is beyond non-professional. And your job is to assist customers on making the right decision, however by reading your juvenile, poorly written post, your simply a snot nosed little boy with knowledge from a comic book. It is people like “YOU” that waste our time…..Grow up son…!!!

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  • Marco
    April 29, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    When the new P-Series will be available in Canada ?

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      May 1, 2016 at 4:00 am

      Hello Marco. We are looking into this and will definitely update you on the matter when we have a solid answer from Vizio. We don’t imagine they will delay for too long on Canadian availability. We do know that the 2016 D-Series are now available in Canada and the P-Series shouldn’t lag far behind, though they are apparently dealing with “regulatory issues” (according to Vizio) with the arrival of the company’s 2016 P-Series models to the Canadian market.

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  • Hailey Matthews
    April 30, 2016 at 11:15 am

    Great article! Do you have any idea when they will be available in Canada? I will be purchasing the P75-C1. Also, do you believe they will be priced higher here, in addition to the exchange on the dollar (USD to CAD)?

    From what I can tell, if they price them the same but just factor in the exchange, the 75 inch set will be about $4700.00 CAD. That’s still quite the bargain.

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      May 1, 2016 at 4:01 am

      Hello Hailey. We are looking into this and will definitely update you on the matter when we have a solid answer from Vizio. We don’t imagine they will delay for too long on Canadian availability. We do know that the 2016 D-Series are now available in Canada and the P-Series shouldn’t lag far behind, though they are apparently dealing with “regulatory issues” (according to Vizio) with the arrival of the company’s 2016 P-Series models to the Canadian market.

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      • Hailey
        May 29, 2016 at 11:40 am

        Thanks Stephen. Please do get back to me if you find out about the P-Series coming to Canada. I am currently holding off on buying a TV until I know whether or not I could get this set here.

        I hope it will happen and would seem very silly to me if it doesn’t. After all Canada is right next door to the US, where these are made.

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        • Stephen
          Stephen
          June 3, 2016 at 1:28 am

          Hey there Hailey. I’ve been keeping track of this issue since I last commented on it and unfortunately, Vizio is still quiet about a 2016 P-Series release in Canada. We do know that the D-Series is on its way to the Canadian market already but it’s disappointing to see the much better P-series not arrive yet even though it’s, as you say, right next door. We believe this is due to some sort of specialized regulatory issues with the TVs.

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          • Hailey Matthews
            June 10, 2016 at 8:00 am

            Thanks, I appreciate it very much. I think I’ll just go with the 65″ Samsung KS9500, although it’s a little pricey and smaller than the Vizio P75-C1. Just can’t wait on Vizio any longer lol. Will pick up the Samsung this month. Thanks again for getting back to me. 🙂


  • Marco
    May 2, 2016 at 11:16 am

    Hi Stephen
    What the Canadian can do for Vizio put on sale in Canada the new lineup of the P Series 2016 as soon as possible ?
    Thanks

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  • Ted
    May 4, 2016 at 3:18 pm

    Minor point, but Sony TV’s do not have Ultra HD Premium certification.

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      May 4, 2016 at 3:58 pm

      This is correct, they have 4K HDR standards, as set by Sony itself and somewhat different. Sony decided on not going with Ultra HD Premium recently despite being an active member of the UHD Alliance. this distinction is being corrected in the relevant areas of our reviews. On the other hand, some of the 2016 XBR Bravia models like the X940D and the X930D do indeed meet Ultra HD Premium standards qualification, though the X850D and the X900D do not from what we’ve seen.

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  • dom
    May 6, 2016 at 11:30 am

    Hi Stephen,
    What’s the highest/native refresh rate on the 65-inch p series? Is it 120hz, or 240hz. I’m talking about native, not marketing motion refresh rate that all manufacturers try to fool on consumers.

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      May 6, 2016 at 1:43 pm

      Hi there Dom, I believe we stated the native refresh rate in the review under the specs section but to clarify for you here, the 55 inch P-Series models and larger come with a true native refresh rate of 120Hz and the 50 inch model offers a 60Hz refresh rate. Again, these are their native refresh rates, aside from the backlight scanning that Vizio uses to “double” real refresh rate (they call this their “Effective Refresh Rate”) or the completely arbitrary Clear Action rates that they name, with numbers like 480 or 720 or even 960 and so on.

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  • George Burnham
    May 7, 2016 at 3:54 pm

    I am going crazy with information overload. Originally I was going to go for the 55″ Vizio, But then the IPS panel and picture threw me off, but then again I need the wide viewing angle. So I even thought about the 65″ Vizio, but back to the viewing angle. Then I started looking everywhere and everything. My next two candidates are Samsung UN60KU6300 60-Inch 4K Ultra HD Smart LED TV (2016 Model) and LG Electronics 60UH8500 60-Inch 4K Ultra HD Smart LED TV (2016 Model). It seems the trade offs really bounce me around a whole lot. I dont believe you have reviewed all my choices, but could you tell me which of these you would get if you had to choose for my living room (and we do like watching at night with the lights off):
    Visio P model 55″ 2016 model
    Samsung UN60KU6300 2016 model
    Or my latest pick: LG Electronics 60UH8500 2016 model????
    I cannot tell you just how freakin out of whack I am after reading all the reviews.
    When I read the negatives, I try to keep them in perspective, but really I am now watching an early 2000 sony (hd ready, LOL, old big tube screen, weights in at a ton). So anything I do is better, but I do want the best I can do and be somewhat future proof (or better prepared anyway). Post or email me your answer please please please. LOL

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  • Brian
    May 11, 2016 at 11:42 am

    I usually purchase TVs at the 55 inch model and My 55 inch Panasonic Plasma (ST50) is having power issues (upset with Panasonic). Should I get the 55 inch IPS or save up for the 65inch VA model? This TV would be used for movies, TV, Sports, and gaming. Off Center viewing would occur rarely.

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      May 11, 2016 at 2:59 pm

      Hello Brian, personally, I’d recommend going for the VA panel at 65 inches. For onne thing, you’re getting a display size that’s 10 inches broader (diagonally) this is of course always a bonus for entertainment quality if you have the space available. Secondly, the superb contrast specs in the P-Series TVs and the overall quality of their HDR are both improved considerably by the VA panel technology of the models with it (all except the 55 inch model). Yes, there will be some loss of viewing angle but this is in my view more than made up for by the other benefits in brightness, contrast and rich blacks.

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  • Ed C
    May 11, 2016 at 9:48 pm

    Hello Stephen, I am considering the 75 inch Vizio P series or the Sony XBR75X940D. The only drawback I see to the Vizio is the off center viewing angle. What angle off center is the issue and how much better is the Sony off center? Taking into consideration visual results, connectivity, HDR standard and cost what is your choice between the two?
    Thanks, Ed C

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      May 11, 2016 at 11:12 pm

      Hello Ed, I’ve replied to a nearly identical question about these exact two TVs here, at the bottom of the post on the 4K TVs of 2016:

      http://4k.com/the-ultimate-guide-to-the-new-4k-tvs-of-2016-from-samsung-to-lg-sony-and-vizio-14496-2/

      However, to answer your further question on viewing angle problems, the VA display in the 75 inch P-Series will cause a moderate amount of picture distortion (mainly lowered contrast, brightness and color vibrancy) at viewing angles of more than 25 degrees. In other words, if 0 degrees is front dead center looking at the display, 25-30 degrees to either side. The maximum viewing angle that’s possible is thus, obviously enough, 90 degrees.

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      • Ed
        May 15, 2016 at 3:30 pm

        Thank you for the response and link to your other article. I went to Best Buy today to see the Vizio P series 75 inch but they only had the 65. Sales rep very much trashed the Vizio as saying in non test environments where tv quality is set up company engineers it’s great but out of the box under standard setup it will fall well behind Samsung and Sony. I found it a ridiculous comment. Then he stated to buy the Vizio it should be only done in store and not online. Any idea if Best Buy just wants to sell more Samasung or Sony vs. Vizio due to the bigger price tags and presumably better margins? Any insight into why in this day and age they want you buying in store vs. online? Just curious if this is fairly common? If so I feel I can’t put any weight on their insight (I didn’t place much to begin with).

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        • Stephen
          Stephen
          May 16, 2016 at 12:48 pm

          Hey there Ed. the sales rep you refer to was talking nonsense as far as we’re concerned. For starters, many 4K TVs can have off-beat picture quality right out of the box and even some of the best premium 4K TVs need a bit of manual calibration to get the right sort of display settings for particular consumer tastes. This alone is not a problem, as long as the TV can be re-calibrated by an average user with a bit of experimentation to produce a picture quality the user does like. Secondly, quite simply the P-Series from Vizio is indeed a great TV. We think Samsung’s models are better but the P-Series definitely outperforms Sony’s X850D in our view. Though the X930D is a superior TV for the most part. As for the rep’s comment that you should buy in-store instead of online, I have no idea why he might have said that. The only ida that comes to my mind is that it’s possibly a safer bet as far as potential damage during shipping is concerned but i’m just guessing. Buying any 4K TV online is mostly perfectly safe if you do it from a major reputable retailer or the manufacturer themself.

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  • Antonio
    May 14, 2016 at 1:38 pm

    Is anyone else having issues streaming Netflix 4k content with the p65-c1? When attempting to stream one of the 4k options I get half picture on the left and half pink/white lines on the right. Am I missing a setting somewhere, or is there something wrong with my TV? Thanks.

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  • Andrew
    June 6, 2016 at 10:48 pm

    Any word on when any of the new p series will arrive in Canada.. really want the 55″ ips

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      June 8, 2016 at 5:48 pm

      Hello Andrew, as I have mentioned at least one or two occasions in other parts of this comment thread, we don’t yet know when the P-Series 2016 HDR TVs will be reaching Canada. We have spoken to Vizio about this and the only answer we managed to get was that certain regulatory issues are behind the delay. However the company won’t specify a possible Canadian release date or what specific issues are delaying release of these TVs up north. We are looking into this issue regularly though and will announce a release as soon as we learn of it. I promise that.

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  • Paulo Henrique
    June 13, 2016 at 6:37 pm

    Hi Stephen, I am about to purchase a new TV for streaming 4K content and computer game (1st person game, high FPS required)… Also, I will sit 9 to 10 feet from the TV.
    Which TV do you recommend me?

    Vizio P series?
    If yes, 50, 55 or 65?
    Is there any other TV on this price range I should consider in order to be more suitable to my usage type?
    Is it a OLED 1080p better for this usage type?

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      June 20, 2016 at 10:10 pm

      Hello Paolo. Among the 4K LCD TV models you’ve listed, I’d most suggest either the 50 inch or the 65 inch P-Series. The 50 inch is a bit weaker on native refresh rate, which sits at 60Hz instead of the 120Hz of the 55 inch model and the 65 inch TV but it comes with a VA display panel, as does the 65 inch P-Series. This means excellent contrast, superb black levels and because of this, means that colors and bright scenes will display in a much more vibrant, realistic looking way. The 55 inch model comes with an IPS panel, which means much widr viwing angles but also means considerably inferior display quality due to way worse contrast and black levels.

      Furthermore, all of the 2016 P-Series models work as truly superb PC monitor and PC gaming display TVs. In fact, they’re among the best 4K TVs for this specific task of all the 2016 models, and they offer very low input lag by 4K TV standards.

      As for the Full HD OLED TV, if you’re really serious about perfect black levels, go for it but i’d recommend the 4K TVs more. The improvement in picture quality and HDR specs is definitely worth the slightly lesser black quality. Furthermore, the Vizio P-Series TVs offer particularly great local dimming, so you won’t be missing out on much here by going for them instead of the HD OLED (none of which offer HDR display).

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  • Harry Zaruba
    June 16, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    Stephen do you feel the picture quality is inferior on the P55? I am buying it to game on and while laying down in my couch I will be approaching a 60 degree angle I game at dead center.

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      June 16, 2016 at 11:01 pm

      Hey there Harry. Quite simply, yes, the picure quality in the 55 inch IPS model is somewhat inferior. Mainly in terms of black level quality but this also affects HDR specs and the vibrancy with which colors appear since contrast plays a large part in perceived color vibrancy. However, VA is much worse to look at from wide angles like yours of 60 degrees off dead center, so between the two, go for IPS display if you’re going to be watching from 60 degrees off center a lot.

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  • Ryan F
    June 17, 2016 at 7:38 am

    Hi Stephen,

    I am debating between this TV and the Samsung KS800 (both 50 inch models). I will mainly be using the TV to watch streaming services (Netflix, Amazon, etc..) and watching football as well as a little Xbox gaming. I like that the Vizio is future proofed with the Dolby Vision as well as HDR10 but I am concerned with your comments about the Vizio having poor upscaling for when I want to watch blu rays or cable. Is the upscaling that poor that it would be worth it to invest the extra $300 for the Samsung or would it not be a very noticeable difference? If it helps, I would be sitting 9 feet away from the screen.

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      June 20, 2016 at 9:40 pm

      Hello Ryan, The Vizio P-Series 2016 TV models don’t have poor upscaling, they simply have slightly mdiocre upscaling for 480p and some 720p content. In this the Samsung KS8000 definitely delivers superior performance, though perhaps not enough to justify its $300 higher price unless you also want the much better peak brightness levels offered by the KS8000. Going back to the upscaling of the P-Series, it is not that bad for most non-4K content sources and mostly shows weakness with 480p video. For upscaling Full HD or any video source from an HD Blu-ray disc, you should have no problems at all with the Vizio model. At these resolutions it performs wonderfully from what we noted.

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  • Eddie
    June 21, 2016 at 5:52 am

    Thanks for great review. Based in part on it I have pulled the trigger on the P65 and it will be arriving on Saturday. Right now I am just looking to find the best settings for the display and beginning my search for an Ultra HDR Blu-ray player.

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  • Ron
    June 21, 2016 at 6:15 pm

    Any idea when Costco will be carrying the P Series?

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      June 22, 2016 at 8:24 am

      Hello Ron, that’s something we don’t know yet but we will try contacting Costco to see what they can tell us. I’m curious myself, as an occasional Costco customer.

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      • Hailey Matthews
        June 22, 2016 at 3:46 pm

        Just out of curiousity, I have been checking back here. I read on Vizio’s Canadian Facebook page and apparently Costco will begin selling the P – Series starting June 23, 2016. That information wasn’t directly from Vizio, rather someone who mentioned this.

        I already purchased the 77″ Samsung KS9800 – I decided to go with that but there is another room in our house that will need another new tv. I do believe I’ll wait and see if this Vizio P series will be available soon (in Canada, at Costco).

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  • paul
    June 26, 2016 at 11:35 am

    Stephen,

    i am going to buy a new tv for my living room. the living room size is 16×22 and its not a dark room. i do watch a lot sports and movies. i deciding between UN85JU7100FXZA, XBR85X850D, and P75-C1. i want the biggest tv with best overall picture quality. how would you rank the tv’s if you were buying??

    thanks

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      September 29, 2016 at 6:02 pm

      Hey there Paul, between the three I’d definitely rank the JU7100 as the lowest in overall quality. It’s a great 4K TV but it lacks full HDR and both wide color gamut and 10-bit color. Between the Sony and the Vizio, i’d say they’re about equally good, with the Vizio offering slightly better contrast and black performance. However the X850D you mention does offer a considerably bigger screen space. Either TV will be a fantastic choice and they’re both full HDR capable, except that the Vizio model also offers Dolby Vision support, which Sony’s 4K TVs lack. I’d say pick the Vizio given these slight benefits but you’ll likely be happy with whichever.

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  • paul
    June 26, 2016 at 11:44 am

    i also to forget to mention XBR75X940D

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  • Chad
    July 3, 2016 at 11:06 am

    Hello,

    My biggest fear with this TV, not having seen the picture in person, is the upscaling from 1080p. Will this TV do a good job with 1080p stream upscaling, or should I look for another set at the 65″ range?

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      July 4, 2016 at 9:46 am

      Hi there Chad, quite simply, the 2016 Vizio P-Series 4K TVs deliver superb upscaling of Full HD content, whether it’s from a streaming media source or from a Blu-ray disc or other hard media source. You won’t be disappointed in this regard. Samsung and Sony’s 2016 4K TVs also offer equally great 4K upscaling of 1080p content but the P-Series is the more affordable 2016 TV model.

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      • Chad
        July 5, 2016 at 3:52 pm

        Thanks for the reply!

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      • Chad
        July 6, 2016 at 6:18 am

        I found a Best Buy a bit of a hike away that actually had the p65-c1 Vizio on display that I was so excited about, and I have to agree with some other things I’ve read. I am going to purchase the Samsung KS8000.

        Perhaps the Vizio can match the Samsung in many picture quality aspects, but in the store, the demo that the Vizio plays shows NOTHING related to the TV’s strongsuits. It’s a commercial, mainly with smiling people sitting in a bright room, and the Best Buy employees said they don’t have a way to put a different demo on. It didn’t look that great, and the semi-gloss coating on the tv, and the form factor of it, being a bit thicker in most every dimension, just didn’t look as good as the Sony or Samsungs on display. I’ve read on other forums that you just ‘need to set the settings properly’ and you’ve got a really great TV. Well, I’m a bit disappointed in Vizio for not pushing to have either the ability in store to adjust the settings, or have a better eye-catching demo to help push sales. Realistically, all of the TVs should be running the same demo for an apples to apples comparison.

        While the Vizio has the smart cast tablet remote, I learned that the Samsung has a pretty cool remote as well, and I think it might meet my needs just fine.

        The LG non-OLEDs didn’t really do it for me, and the Sony’s intense color was almost too much. The Samsung seemed to have just as much color and blew me away with the picture quality. I couldn’t tell much of a difference between the ks9000 and 8000, certainly nothing to justify another $800, so I found my winner with the KS8000.

        Outside of the displays, do you recommend any receivers in particular? I’m reading good things about Denon, and the 700 (right now 720) seems to fit best into my level of cinemaphile-ness.

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  • paul
    July 8, 2016 at 7:11 am

    Stephen,

    i am going to buy a new tv for my living room. the living room size is 16×22 and its not a dark room. i do watch a lot sports and movies. i deciding between UN85JU7100FXZA, XBR85X850D, XBR75X940D, and P75-C1. i want the biggest tv with best overall picture quality. how would you rank the tv’s if you were buying??

    thanks

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      July 8, 2016 at 8:53 pm

      Hello there Paul, Among the four TV’s you’re speaking of, the absolute best model will be the XBRX940D. It comes wit the highest peak brightness, the best color performance and what we consider to be the best overall motion control specs among those four models. Most of all though, the Full-array backlit X940D delivers the best combination of HDR-level peak brightness and black level and superb Sony wide color gamut performance.

      The second in line would be the P75-C1, which is nearly as good on color, motion control specs and contrast but which delivers considerably weaker peak brightness capacity (though it’s a full-array LED backlit TV too).

      Finally, i’d suggest the JU7100 as your third option. The X850D offers superb color performance but its contrast and black performance specs are simply not as good as those of the 2015 Samsung model.

      Another excellent choice would be the 2016 KS9000 for the quality of its color delivery and the caliber of its HDR.

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  • Jose
    July 8, 2016 at 12:33 pm

    Hi Stephen,
    I am interested in the P-65 and I’m wondering if you ran some input lag tests on this until and what the results were? I am a big console gamer (mainly sports and FPS) so input lag below 50 ms is a must.

    Thank you

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      July 8, 2016 at 8:46 pm

      Hello there Jose, the P-65 delivers excellent input lag specs and is in fact what we consider to be one of the best 4K UHD TVs of 2016 for console gaming or use as a PC monitor for gaming and other applications. From what we recall, it’s input lag sits at 18 milliseconds as long as you deactivate motion interpolation technology and also turn the TV to “Game Mode”.

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      • Dan
        September 1, 2016 at 12:51 pm

        If you want to game in HDR though, you can’t use HDMI 5. That is only a 1.4 HDMI port. To game in HDR with the Xbox one S, PS4 neo or Xbox Scorpio you need to use HDMI 1-4. Have you tested the input lag on those HDMI ports?

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  • mark
    July 11, 2016 at 6:27 pm

    Is the wifi ac or just n?

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  • Dae
    July 14, 2016 at 11:45 pm

    Love the review but lack of tuner is a deal breaker for me, i’m a a cable cutter and like OTA broadcast as well as streaming; hate to settle with last year Vizio models

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  • Mark Cole
    July 23, 2016 at 4:42 pm

    One thing the review failed to mention is that this series uses Pulse Width Modulation to control the backlight, causing flicker and eye strain. This one unfortunate fact is enough to keep many people, including me, from purchasing a P Series Visio.

    I wish all manufacturers and reviewers would mention the presence or absence of PWM.

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  • Matt Austin
    July 31, 2016 at 6:35 pm

    I won a P50-C1 however after the month of owning it one day when I turned it on the screen was going crazy flickering and had to be returned to best buy. After being sent out and getting my money back for being covered under manufacturer warranty I went with the 55x850d. I’ve only owned it for less than a week and am not nearly as impressed. Don’t get me wrong it’s a great tv, however with Vizio putting full array and having an awesome input lag I’m stuck at what to do. So I either return the Sony and repurchase the P50 for $50 more or keep the 55x850d. What is your input?

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  • Alex
    August 24, 2016 at 8:49 pm

    Hi, I plan to purchase either the 50 inch or the 55 inch version of this Vizio P Series TV. However as a big FPS gamer I am concerned about input and display lag. My current TV is a Samsung 40″ KU7000 UHD w/ HDR support and when playing FPS PS4 games such as Destiny and Overwatch, the TV cannot run (or display) the fast gameplay smoothly at all. The “lag” is very noticeable and cannot be ignored. Setting the KU7000 into Game mode provided no improvement nor did adjusting Judder reduction settings.

    With a budget around $1000, how good is the Vizio P Series for fast paced motion in games?

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  • Jeremiah Preston
    August 28, 2016 at 7:08 pm

    Stephen,

    Based on some sales at BestBuy which puts them all within $500 of each other I am not looking at either the Sony 65 930 , Samsung 65KS900 or the Vizio P 65. Watch mostly HD TV (basic cable shows / sports) and once and a while play some Xbox One. Honestly 3D is not a big deal to me I’m looking for the best bang for the buck. Would consider the KS8000 too as it is now $300 cheaper than the P Series. Again I want the best bang for the buck. Thanks for the help!

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      September 7, 2016 at 6:25 pm

      Hey there Jeremiah, among all the TVs you mention, the model which will give you the best value per dollar spent is definitely the KS8000. Between the KS8000 and KS9000 there is virtually no real display performance, motion control or other specs difference and the 2016 SUHD TVs offer excellent black performance, superb motion control specs and superb wide color gamut as well. Most of all however (and this is what makes them superior to all the other 2016 LCD TVs we’ve reviewed so far) they offer stunningly high peak brightness at up to 1400 nits. The Sony X930D is a good TV and the 65 inch Vizio P-Series is also excellent (better than the Sony in our view) but the Samsung KS9000 or KS8000 are both better then either model. And because they’re nearly identical, just go for the KS8000 to save a bit more.

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  • Dan
    August 31, 2016 at 12:11 pm

    One thing to note for any gamers. To get the best lag times you need to use HDMI 5. This is the old 1.4 HDMI port. This port does NOT support HDR, therefore if you want to play with an Xboxone S, ps 4 neo, or the future Scorpio, you need to use HDMI 1-4. Then you can get full HDR support. The problem with that is, the lag time increases to around 60 ms. I don’t know if that is acceptable to most gamers or not.

    That has me looking at the Samsung KS8000. With HDR on, the lag measured around 22-23 ms. All things considered, I think I’m leaning towards the Samsung, despite no Dolby vision support.

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  • Barry
    September 2, 2016 at 8:57 am

    Will you guys be reviewing the new M series anytime soon?

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  • Michael
    September 21, 2016 at 5:39 pm

    Update September 19, 2016: Last month Vizio issued the software update allowing the P- and M-series TVs to work with HDR10 sources like 4K Blu-ray players.
    How does this change your review?

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      September 23, 2016 at 10:20 am

      Hi Michael. We’ve updated this information for both TV reviews. We consider them to be great TVs and the inclusion of HDR10 only makes them better in our view. Other than that, the actual specs as reported in our review will largely remain the same. The TV now just has the ability to display HDR10 mastered content in HDR to the best of the TV’s ability.

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  • Maxwell Lesmond
    October 5, 2016 at 10:06 pm

    Hey Stephen. I am likely going to purchase the Vizio P65-C1 and had a question regarding the remote control android tablet. I was wondering if you think there is any way to mirror the remote screen to the tv screen. I have rogers as my cable provider and they have an application called rogers anyplace tv. This app allows you to watch live cable tv from your tablet or smartphone. It does not have a smartcast option so I was wondering if you know of any other ways of connecting this app to the tv or mirroring everything from the tablet to the screen.

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  • Michael
    October 9, 2016 at 1:25 pm

    I was wondering if I can play video games on a Vizio 50 inch P-series @ 1080p 120 Hz? Can I use the Vizio 50 P-series as alternate high end 1080p 120hz gaming TV?

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  • Mariano
    October 26, 2016 at 9:41 am

    Hello Stephen

    Which one should i get between these two models? Can you give me your advice?

    Im between this Vizio P in 50″ and the 55ec9300 1080p oled.
    What should I consider more? the benefits of the oled technology or the 4k on the vizio? Which i´ve never seen in person but is more futureproof and from what i´ve read it has also a great picture.
    And how they compare in motion? Its important that the Vizio is 60hz?
    The usage will be for watching movies in bluray, some console gaming and some sports (soccer) and my viewing distance is 6,5 to 7 feet.

    Thank you very much for your time.

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  • Ray L
    March 1, 2017 at 9:34 am

    Stephen, I’m coming to the end of many years of enjoying a Panasonic Plasma. I’m looking into the Vizio P50 and the Samsung KS8000. What one would you recommend and why. Thanks!

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      March 1, 2017 at 9:02 pm

      Hey there Ray, Between the two I’d generally give more weight to the Samsung KS8000. Both are superb LCD 4K HDR TVs in the premium class but the KS8000 delivers much higher peak brightness and I think its color performance is slightly better due to the presence of quantum dot technology for the HDR wide color gamut. The KS8000 and Vizio P-Series both handle motion about equally and both deliver some excellent gaming performance but overall, the KS8000 creates a better quality of HDR in its contrast specs.

      The Vizio P50 does however have two main things in its favor. The first is the presence of the arguably superior Dolby Vision HDR support along WITH HDR10 standards support (the KS8000 only supports HDR10) and the other thing in its favor is the PS50’s cheaper price.

      Bottom line: if you want maximum possible dynamic range and motion handling as well as upscaling, go for the KS8000. However if you don’t mind lower peak brightness and wnat maximum HDR support at a cheaper price as a bonus, go for the Vizio P50.

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  • JW
    March 6, 2017 at 2:31 pm

    I find it interesting that a majority of the reviews are testing everything except the 55″ variant. In regards to the P55-C1 don’t worry about the negative feedback on IPS panels (mainly backlight bleed from edge-lit) because FALD w/ 126 dimming zones makes the black look blac. Even with the room dark they are still black. IPS also offers more color pop and better viewing angles. Yes, I own the P55-C1.

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  • Brady Bednar
    March 20, 2017 at 11:03 am

    Hi there! I see the hot debate is the ks8000 vs the Vizio P series and have read a lot about it. My main question is do you think that the lack of Dolby Vision support on the Samsung’s hurts it at all? I have heard that Dolby is implementing it as a software possibly instead of tv’s needing a chip. With Vizio seemingly pumping out more updates to it’s TV’s then Samsung, do you think it may be smarter to pay for the 65 inch P series vs the KS8000 (and it’s dropping prices with new tv lineup coming out)? Or is Dolby Vision not as big of a deal?

    Thanks!

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      March 20, 2017 at 4:16 pm

      Hey there Brady. If we’re measuring in terms of raw specs and performance, the KS8000 is the hands down winner against the P-Series. More than anything due to its vastly superior peak brightness, which makes a strong difference in how color vibrancy is perceived on the TV. The KS8000 also delivers what I’d call slightly superior black levels and motion handling. Bottom line though: The P-Series is stuck with the display specs it has, so regardless of the full range of Dolby Vision, this TV will only deliver a part of what Dolby mastering can handle down the road. That display HDR capability is weaker than that of the HDR10 range in the KS8000.

      As for the format war between HDR10 TVs vs Dolby vision, I think Dolby will have a long road of success ahead of it and especially so with the supposed software update implementation. Furthermore, Dolby Vision is much more robust in its ranges for Wide Color Gamut and Peak brightness (12-bit color, REC.2020 vs the 10-bit color and DCI-P3 of HDR10) but HDR10, which is cheaper and easier to implement, isn’t going away any time soon. Quite the contrary. I think Samsung should also implement Dolby and currently it’s nearly the only major TV maker that’s resisting but this is partly for a reason. Dolby Vision isn’t open source and thus costs a lot more money than HDR10 to use. This works to its detriment sometimes.

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  • Kirti
    March 31, 2017 at 11:07 pm

    Hi Stephen,
    I am in process of buying 70-75 inch TV for the family room which has lot of natural light because of many windows. I have narrowed down the choices to Vizio P 75 and Samsung 75KS9000. I understand Samsung has better brightness than Vizio and less reflection. Is 2x the price for Samsung worth it for the differences between the two TVs

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      April 1, 2017 at 4:00 pm

      Hi there Kirti. While the Samsung model is without a doubt better overall and delivers far superior peak brightness, I’d argue that it’s extra price doesn’t make it worthwhile. For one thing, the Vizio performs just as well on all HDR and 10-bit color specs and secondly, the quality of its local dimming will make it deliver superior black levels and a better perception of contrast despite the lower top brightness. Additionally, with the Vizio you get the benefit of both HDR10 and Dolby Vision HDR support, unlike with the KS9000’s HDR10 only support. Go for the Vizio in this case. It also handles motion almost as well as the Samsung, with gaming input lag being nearly as good and definitely good enough to be acceptable with the lower price it’s going for.

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  • Dennis W. Bechtel
    May 9, 2017 at 4:23 am

    I have a p-65 c-1 vizio and an oppo 4 k hdr disc player ,this tv does better with disc content from the oppo ,network here is directv which has widest color gamut with the new genie receivers all in native 4-k hdr when hooked up correctly ,we all watch movies every night now ,the p=65 c-1 we bought was 1100 bucks from a discount dealer on line ,this tv beats the oled lg in the family room for sharpness and content variety with the new android tablet remote ,we stream 4-k content with this amazing remote.

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  • Troy
    May 18, 2017 at 10:15 am

    Hi. I’m looking at the Vizio p50-C1. I’m liking what it has to offer. I currently have lg uh6150 although it’s a good tv I shoulda done my homework better. For the Vizio I’m looking at does tear occur when gaming? I knew w they say the Vizio p55 is good for gaming but as said I like the 50 inch. Feedback is appreciated. Thanks.

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    • Stephen
      Stephen
      May 19, 2017 at 5:46 pm

      Hello there Troy. I personally strongly recommend the Vizio P50-C1. It’s a far better 4K TV than the LG model you have/had and delivers superb color, HDR color, deep blacks and some very respectable peak brightness. Vizio’s P-Series TVs are also great for console gaming, with low 17ms or less input lag for both 1080p and 4K resolution. However, their input lag for 4K HDR gaming content and 4K at 60Hz and with 4:4:4 is not great, at 44ms or so. Bottom line, the P-Series 50 inch model is a good choice and also better than the 55 inch model overall, though the local dimming technology of the P-Series TVs makes even the normally weak contrast of the 55 inch version perform quite well.

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